Lecrae: For me, restoration is all about demonstrating grace and love. Because to believe you can be restored is to believe that there are second, third, fourth, fifth and seventh chances. It’s to believe that there can be healing and unity and hope and love, it is to believe that things that are broken can be restored. And so that’s definitely what I want to be a catalyst for as far as communities, relationships, anything. There’s always hope for restoration because God promises that. 

Healing Our Wounds And Restoring Our Lives: Lecrae Moore and Jeremy & Adrienne Camp – Episode #222

Narrator: Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. In scripture, we are promised restoration through our relationship with Christ. In Jeremiah we’re told that God will “restore health to us and our wounds will be healed.” The wounds referred to aren’t just physical—we can be wounded by the traumas we experience during every stage of our life. Our guests today—music artists and authors Lecrae Moore and Jeremy Camp and Jeremy’s wife Adrienne Camp—speak to how God brought restoration to their lives and how God continues to heal their wounds.

Lecrae Moore is a two-time Grammy-winning breakout rhymist, activist, and author who has sold millions of records and achieved landmark success in his genre. Growing up in an environment of brokenness and abuse, Lecrae struggled to believe that God was real and that his existence on this earth wasn’t just some kind of “cosmic accident.” That struggle eventually led to finding God, but only to meet more disappointment and pain when the “people of God,” who were supposed to love him, criticized and ostracized him. Pushed back into darkness, Lecrae descended into the depths of depression until he reached a precipice of needing help. Lecrae shares how fear drove his faith which led to unpacking his story of trauma and rediscovery of God and His transformative love.

Lecrae: I am Lecrae Moore. I am an artist, and author, and an activist. And yeah, I love the Lord and love using my opportunities and abilities to be a catalyst for restoration in the world.

Who Am I and Is God Real?

Growing up and dealing with so many different types of abuse and neglect, I think that I found performing [to be] a coping mechanism. When you’re neglected and abused, you can develop a massive sense of insecurity and in order to deal with that insecurity, I performed because it was a way I could find affirmation.

“When you’re neglected and abused, you can develop a massive sense of insecurity and in order to deal with that insecurity, I performed because it was a way I could find affirmation.” – Lecrae Moore

And so the beauty of that was that I was able to develop these amazing gifts and talents and be able to become a social scientist and see what makes people laugh, cry, and how to connect with people in an authentic way. The detriment of that is that you lose a sense of yourself because you’re always on. You’re always performing. And so you don’t know who you are. And when the applause stops, you are questioning your worth, your identity. 

As far as my relationship with God, as a child, my mother experienced a lot of church hurt. She was raised in a church, but there were a lot of just unfortunate circumstances that happened to her just because of the times and segregation. And so there was not a lot of education, as far as the leadership in the churches that she grew up in. So there were a lot of well-intentioned things, but just misguided. So she really had a lot of problems with church and religion and was very adamant to not raise her kids in that environment. So we are more free-spirited. We are more open thinkers, readers, on processing the world around us. 

You know, she was also a civil rights activist, but more on the militant side, not so much the Christian civil rights activist. And so I didn’t really grow up with a sense of God. I think I grew up believing that God was a crutch for weak people. And so I just didn’t really care to know much about it. And so affirmation for me came from, you know, women or climbing some social status ladder in school or joining in a particular group of individuals who were heralded in the community, awards, plaques, just chasing things and chasing things to gain identity, which was dangerous for my soul. But I was always curious. 

My grandmother, she exposed me to things that piqued my curiosity and made me question things. So I did wonder about heaven and hell. I did wonder about Jesus and these things, because it was brought up to me through my grandmother. 

Probably around seventeen, I had a friend tell me, “Well, since you’re an atheist, Lecrae, you know that there’s no hope or belief in anything except yourself.” And I never forgot how petrified I was, because I could barely tie my shoe and now I was in control of my destiny and purpose. And that scared me. And so I couldn’t reconcile that in my mind. And that started to give me some trouble, and I began to seek and ask for solutions and to see if this was really true. And so I started studying world religions and studying more religions.

“I had a friend tell me, “Well, since you’re an atheist, Lecrae, you know that there’s no hope or belief in anything except yourself.” And I never forgot how petrified I was, because I could barely tie my shoe and now I was in control of my destiny and purpose.” – Lecrae Moore

I went to a Christian conference just on a whim, and I heard the gospel. And I was radically changed. That changed the trajectory of my life and allowed me to have a sense of hope and purpose. And that’s probably where my music came from, was me expressing this newfound hope and purpose and views and values. 

The problem is that I had never dealt with the historical trauma. I kind of thought that coming into faith was like this cure-all. And I didn’t do the work. You know, the work is the means by which God changes you. And so I hadn’t done the work in terms of the historical trauma. So I was still using the same tactics I used as a kid in my Christian journey, performing to get people to love me and accept me and appreciate me. 

And so when the performance trap crashed in on me and the Christians that I thought were my family turned their back on me because I had different views on race or ethnicity or, you know, what they would say are politics but what I would say are ethics, obviously dealing with critiques and criticisms and backlash from social media and just different people from different areas—I think I reached a boiling point where I realized there was nothing I could do to make people understand my perspective. It got to a point where once I began to talk about issues that were detrimental in society and to myself, people didn’t want to hear it. They just wanted me to perform. So it’s almost like the, “Shut up and dribble. We don’t want to hear social commentary from you. Just sing a song.” And so you’re being objectified.

Losing Faith and Sinking into Depression

When they turned their back on me, I really could not separate them from God, because they were the representation of God to me. So I turned my back on God altogether. And once I turned my back on God, I was a thinker. So in my mind, there was no moral compass. There was no right or wrong. There just was. And that’s kind of how I lived, a sense of purposelessness which led me to the place of depression. You know, it’s like, All right, I’ll binge drink because it doesn’t matter if I binge drink or I don’t. I’ll take these prescription pills. I’ll take more than I should because it doesn’t really matter. I’m a cosmic accident and there’s no God. 

I didn’t know what was wrong with me. From context clues. I knew this must be a depression. The sky was blue. I couldn’t appreciate the beauty of it. I wasn’t hungry. I couldn’t appreciate food. I was just very melancholy. And so context clues led me to say, “I’m pretty sure this is a depression.”

I didn’t know what clinical depression was, but I didn’t find that out until later. My context clues led me to say, “Okay, this must be depression.” Now you don’t know what resources you can look to to find help, because there are no voices of color speaking into this particular area. There are no resources as far as books, especially in the context of a Christian. It’s such a niche, a niche audience. 

Coming from the cultural context that I come from, one, the culture of hip hop, which is definitely bravado, machismo, “tough guy” exterior. And then even how I was raised without my father around, my uncles were afraid that I would become, you know, a mama’s boy. And so they did things to toughen me up, so to speak, that weren’t healthy for me. I did not have language—or I wasn’t comfortable with—expressing myself in that kind of way that made me vulnerable and exposed me. 

I’m very grateful, though, for some of the leadership that I’ve seen happen in culture and society. Seeing Jay-Z mention going to therapy was actually very helpful for me, because it gave me the courage to say, “Okay, this is a thing that I don’t have to be ashamed of.” 

And then, you know, I have a lot of family members who are incarcerated, and I’ve always really been interested in incarcerated individuals. And so over and over again, I would hear stories of the toughest individuals going through mental health battles once they’re in solitary confinement. And I didn’t understand it until I went through clinical depression. But even their stories gave me some encouragement that even the toughest of people have a breaking point. And so I knew I had reached my breaking point, and I knew I needed professional help.

“Even the toughest of people have a breaking point. And so I knew I had reached my breaking point, and I knew I needed professional help.” – Lecrae Moore

Finding Help and Hearing God

And then I met my therapist, who is phenomenal, one that has been life-changing for me. And every day before our sessions, she would start with the Jesus Calling book, and I was blown away. I’ve seen the Jesus Calling book a million times, right, over the course of my Christian walk. And, you know, it’s probably back to that tough guy exterior. It’s like, This is a great book for soccer moms. I’m sure it’s perfect for them. This is not for me. The cover’s pretty. And it’s just, you know, I don’t know. It’s not for me. And I never investigated it. I never opened it up. 

And you know, what was being said, because it was so personal and it was the voice of Jesus talking to me, saying things that were true. But, you know, especially for somebody like myself who didn’t grow up with their father and struggles to hear these affirming things, you know, “I’ve got to earn that. This is the type of thing that is being said in the Jesus Calling book, right? I’ve got to perform for those things.” No, no. This is how He feels about you. And this is what He has to say to you. And it was so therapeutic, so life changing and so helpful that, you know, I’m forever grateful. 

The fear is that you’re standing on the edge, the precipice of change, and you’re afraid to jump because you just don’t believe that change can really happen. But the reality is that the first jump is the evidence of change. You’ve already begun the process when you take the leap. And so for me, I didn’t believe I could change. I didn’t believe anything could change. And I didn’t believe that it was as bad as I thought it was. And so fortunately for me, I got pushed off the edge of that cliff, and I got pushed by means of a clinical depression. And once your mind is kind of taken over, once you’re inside of it, it’s like being trapped in your own mind. You’ve got to fight to get out of there or you just sit and suffer in silence.

“The fear is that you’re standing on the edge, the precipice of change, and you’re afraid to jump because you just don’t believe that change can really happen. But the reality is that the first jump is the evidence of change. You’ve already begun the process when you take the leap.” – Lecrae Moore

Emerging From the Darkness

You know, there’s a song called “Cry for You” where it’s like, Do I just accept this thorn? This thorn in my flesh is the only thing I have left. You know, it’s so hard to confess when everyone sees your success. And so it was the precipice.

But once you’re in the darkest of places, I don’t think you can thrive creatively. I think creativity is stifled because, you know, that’s what we’re created to be. We’re created by a Creator to be reflections of that creation of that Creator. And when we’re not thriving, we’re not in our most creative place. And so there was no ability to talk artistically. 

So what I had to do was just journal and write down my experiences. And the journaling was good because as I came out of the dark place and my faith was restored, I had things to draw upon, content to draw from. Like, Wow, look how dark this was. And look how I’m out of this. You know, I go back to the entries and I’m blown away at how dark, like, Wow, I didn’t even know I was there, you know? And I don’t want to take that for granted either. And so that changes the music. 

I want it to be reflective of people who went through hell and now have tasted that someone pulled them out. You know, what does it feel like to be swallowed by a giant fish and then be spit out on land? What kind of song do you write after that? I wanted to be reflective of that. And that’s what Restoration sounds like. You have to make pain look like pain so that healing looks like healing. That’s one of the most beautiful things, realizations I came to, is that even in my darkest place, God’s there. If I return to that dark place, what’s the worst thing that’s gonna happen that I’m afraid of? God will be there with me.

“That’s one of the most beautiful things, realizations I came to, is that even in my darkest place, God’s there. If I return to that dark place, what’s the worst thing that’s gonna happen that I’m afraid of? God will be there with me.” – Lecrae Moore

Sharing the Promise of Restoration

A couple of years ago, I wanted to create kind of an ecosystem, or reverse engineer what it would look like for a person to find a healthy, safe place to find healing and restoration. And so I just kind of tapped into the areas that I felt most competent and comfortable in, and that was obviously music, writing, and then a video series, just this authentic documentary work. 

So I created an album called Restoration featuring a lot of amazing people: Kirk Franklin, John Legend, to name a few. We did a video series where we walk people through my own kind of journey of restoration, meeting my father for the first time, and things along those lines. And then lastly, a book called I Am Restored, where it’s a much more detailed account of how I found healing and health in the middle of all the chaos. 

Listen, I would cling to anything that was a promise of restoration in the scriptures, and that’s how this book and this album and the docu-series were formed because of these promises, the promise that I will restore to you the joy of my salvation, the promise that, I restore you, He restores my soul, and Psalm 23. It’s like, there’s so much in this that says, “Hey, I will restore you.” And then this is perfect, it’s almost saying what we were talking about, it’s the idea of routine and ritual, and that’s religion and not relationship.

You know, oftentimes we think of God as some kind of inanimate object that we’re talking at, and not a person that wants to spend time with us and to connect with us. And that’s the beauty of Jesus Calling and clearly Jesus Always is, that we can hear a voice. We can get a sense of a person. And I think that that’s life-giving.

 When we can see the massive length, the depth, the height of God’s love, it’s transforming. It transforms our views on everything. If you are wrapped up in visceral hatred and and disdain for someone, look at the depth, the width, the breadth of God’s love and how it extends to you when you should be hated. But you’re not.

“When we can see the massive length, the depth, the height of God’s love, it’s transforming. It transforms our views on everything.” – Lecrae Moore

If you are trapped in trauma and problems and you just don’t see any way out of it, look at the depth with the breadth, the height of God’s love and what He’s willing to do in order to rescue you from that. And I just think that that’s such a picture that would take a lifetime to understand how deep His love is, how wide and non compared to anything we’ve ever experienced. And so I think if I can get a glimpse of what that means, that changes everything for me and everything for this world and everything for this country, if we can get a taste of how vast His love is.

You’ve experienced a lot of pain. You’ve been abused, you’ve been threatened, you’ve been treated like you were not human, and you have drawn strength from those things in those circumstances. But you will not understand that strength and understand your most authentic self until you intentionally deal with those things, until you intentionally process and work through those things. You’re not gonna be able to change the world effectively until you own your story and allow it to turn you into someone amazing.

“You’re not gonna be able to change the world effectively until you own your story and allow it to turn you into someone amazing.” – Lecrae Moore

I think in terms of finding yourself ready for restoration or ready for healing, you do have to acknowledge the issue. You’ve got to accept and acknowledge the trauma that you endured or are currently experiencing. And acceptance is always painful, but denial is deadly. And so to deny that you have a life threatening disease could cost you your life. To accept it or acknowledge it could mean a lifetime of difficulties and treatment. But you’re on a journey now of healing and health and hope, because if you can hope, you can heal. I think people avoid acknowledgment because they’re afraid of losing a sense of hope. And, you know, I’m a firm believer that God is very adamant about making sure we know we have a future and a hope. 

Narrator: To find out more about Lecrae, his music and resources, please visit Lecrae.com

Stay tuned to Jeremy and Adrienne Camp’s story after this brief message.

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Narrator: Sometimes we find ourselves with the ground crumbling beneath our feet, never imagining that anything good could lay ahead. But when we choose to believe in God’s goodness, our trust allows us to step into the plans God has for us, even if we can’t see them yet. GRAMMY-nominated Christian singer/songwriter Jeremy Camp found himself in the throes of grief after his young wife, Melissa, passed away when she was only twenty-one. But in the midst of his suffering, Jeremy penned a song called “I Still Believe” as a testimony to his ongoing faith. That faith held him steady as God brought new love into his life—his wife of nearly twenty years, Adrienne—and began a healing season for Jeremy.

Jeremy: So my name’s Jeremy Camp, and actually I’m from Indiana. And I’ve been playing music now for, my goodness, how many years? Twenty-four years. I’ve been able to go around the world and preach the gospel, to sing songs, and minister where God’s taught me. So it’s been quite an incredible journey for sure. And now, of course, talking to you guys. So very excited to be here. 

Adrienne: My name is Adrienne Camp and I am married to Jeremy, and I was born and raised in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. And as a young girl, I wanted to pursue music. I moved over to America when I was nineteen years old, left my family behind and everything I’d ever known, and came and hit the road in a van and trailer. And it was on my journey as a musician that I met my husband Jeremy, and the rest is history. 

Jeremy: And I do have to just point out, too, that my first tour, I opened up for her. So just, you know, a little bit of background there.

Adrienne: It’s true. And we’ve been married for almost sixteen years.

Jeremy: No, seventeen! 

Adrienne: I’m sorry, seventeen years. And we’ve got three beautiful children. 

Jeremy: Yeah, so happy.

Trusting God, Even When We Can’t See the Way Forward

Jeremy: I moved from Indiana to California when I was eighteen, I went to Bible College and you know, after that stint, I had a friend who was teaching a Bible study and he said, “Hey, you know, there’s this girl named Melissa. She’s awesome. You should meet her.” 

But the problem was my friend liked her. And so I remember meeting this girl, I didn’t think anything of it at first, but I was leading worship, and I looked up and she just was in this amazing Holy Spirit, in the presence of God, moment and you know, it took me by surprise. I’d not seen anybody that engaged in worship to the Lord, and so it really kind of attracted me to her. I mean, she was pretty and she’s beautiful. But it was like that really attracted me to her was her heart, her passion for Jesus. 

We started talking and, you know, I knew that my friend liked her. And so I was a little bit nervous to pursue this move forward, but you know, it was hard for her because he was a good friend of hers. And, you know, we kind of did the whole breakup thing because of the fact that here we are, the friend of mine who likes her, and there’s all this drama and she couldn’t handle it. 

And so I was like, “All right, I guess we’re done.” And the long short of it is we got back together when I found out she had cancer. I remember her telling me when I asked her how she was doing, and she had this amazing glow, just peace to her that was definitely supernatural. And when asked how she was doing, her response to me was, you know, “I’m doing okay because I realized that if I die from this cancer, but if one person gives their life to Jesus, then it’s all worth it.”

“When asked how she was doing, her response to me was, you know, ‘I’m doing okay because I realized that if I die from this cancer, but if one person gives their life to Jesus, then it’s all worth it.’” – Jeremy Camp, on his first wife Melissa as she battled cancer

I kind of went away from the room that night, I was like, “God, if you want me to marry her, then if she tells me she loves me, I’ll marry her.” Just random, like, I don’t know why I said that. And I came back in one day. and she just said, “Hey, I want to let you know that I’m praying for you and I love you.” And, you know, just the progression forward was I don’t know what’s gonna happen. I don’t know if she’s gonna survive. We don’t know, but we’re gonna have hope and fight through it. But I love her and I want to be with her during that time. 

We got married. It was beautiful. You know, as we got married, things were looking better. And two weeks into our honeymoon, she was having these issues with her stomach. And I kind of at that point just started having that fear. And we got home and the doctors did tests on her and said that she had weeks to months to live.

And three and a half months into our marriage, she went to be with the Lord. And it was, to say the least, the biggest challenge of my faith I’d ever experienced before. God definitely walked me through some grieving that was not easy. And I was very honest and very raw.

“God definitely walked me through some grieving that was not easy.” – Jeremy Camp

I love God’s Word, because it’s chock full of all these promises. And, you know, there’s one that I love that says, “The Lord is near to the brokenhearted.” And it’s that understanding that when you’re going through those hard trials, He’s not left you nor forsaken you. He really is right there with you, and He is near to those that are broken. 

I think there are scriptures that I always knew growing up that I had to really let it sink deep in my heart. And it was Proverbs 3:5–6, which says, “All right. Trust the Lord with all your heart.” So you have to really go, “Okay, here’s my heart. Am I actually going to trust Him with all my heart? Because right now I’m having a hard time trusting and I’m holding back pieces because I’m scared.” So you have this, like, “True,” going, “I can’t lean on my understanding, because I don’t understand it.” 

It says, “In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your path.” So just say, “Okay, God, I’m going to acknowledge you in this. Acknowledge you and acknowledge my pain. Acknowledge my hurt, be real with you. And I know that You’ll direct me.” But that’s kind of where, in a sense, my true faith journey began, you know, having to trust the Lord in the midst of the hardest trial and tribulation.

“Okay, God, I’m going to acknowledge You in this. I’ll acknowledge You and acknowledge my pain. I’ll acknowledge my hurt, be real with You. And I know that You’ll direct me.” – Jeremy Camp, on his faith after his wife Melissa’s death

A New Relationship

Adrienne: When I met Jeremy on tour, I had at that point been away from my family and my church and everything for a while, a couple of years. At that point, almost three years. And I was really not doing well spiritually, just in a very dry, hard, hard place, just kind of jaded. And in fact, it wasn’t love at first sight by any means. 

Jeremy: Yeah. 

Adrienne: But when I heard Jeremy share his testimony, I was in such a search for something authentic and real. I was blown away by somebody who could watch his wife suffer and die and still be standing up saying, “Lord, I believe. And even though I don’t understand everything and even though this is hard, I’m choosing to trust you and I’m choosing to walk through this just clinging on to you.”

“I was blown away by somebody who could watch his wife suffer and die and still be standing up saying, ‘Lord, I believe. And even though I don’t understand everything and even though this is hard, I’m choosing to trust You and I’m choosing to walk through this just clinging on to You.’” – Adrienne Camp, on her husband Jeremy

And so I would hear him share that from the stage. But then I kind of cornered him backstage, because I was curious, like, “Okay, where’s the loophole, I want to find out more.” And so I would just ask him question after question after question, and I could tell that his faith was so authentic and so real. And for me personally, I just felt like I’d never met anybody like him. 

Jeremy: I think the reason why, you know, I fell in love with her is every time we talk about Jesus, like she would just light up. It’s like she was craving more of Jesus. And I think that to me, that’s what you want. You want someone that wants to know more about Jesus, that wants to have a deep relationship with Him. 

And I think that you can have all the knowledge that you want and know God’s Word, all that you want, but it’s about your love and your desire for intimacy with Him and to grow knowing Him is what really matters. And so that’s what really attracted me to her. And so God just kind of put us together. And here we are almost seventeen years later. Crazy. Wow. 

Exploring God’s Word as a Family

Adrienne: We decided very early on within quarantine that we were just going to tackle a book of the Bible and start going through it together. So we started in James, which if you’ve read James before, it’s a very, very practical book. 

Jeremy: And very convicting.

Adrienne: And we would just sit around and go through the verses and say, “Okay, how do we apply this? What does this look like for us together as a family?” 

One thing that we do in our family is definitely do not get it right all at the time, but when we blow it, we’re very honest with each other. And so we’ll literally sit around and just go, “You know what? I’m so sorry I didn’t handle that right.” 

And so we’re not saying that quarantine has been perfect for us as a family. We’ve definitely had our ups and downs, but we’ve just come together. And I think just holding our hearts up against God’s Word, you know, just going, “Okay, how does this apply to us today?” It’s just really been super grounding and just sweet to hear even our kids just processing the things that they’re going through as well. 

Jeremy: I think the biggest thing is we’ve got more time with the family than ever before, you know. And so you start to really kind of, in a sense, see your kids as they’re growing up and what you’re dealing with and kind of the personalities, you know, to a greater degree. I mean, I’ve always seen it. Of course, I’m very present when I’m home. And they come with me a lot, too. But I think there’s just an understanding of like, “Hey, let’s really tap into their heart in a very, very deep way.” And so we’ve really been able to kind of just have these deep issues and talk through things. It’s been so good. 

Narrator: As we close our time with Jeremy and Adrienne, Jeremy reads a passage of Jesus Calling from a day that has special meaning for him.

Jeremy: February 5th was the day that Melissa went to be with the Lord. So let me read this.

Seek My Face, and you will find not only My Presence but also My Peace. To receive My Peace, you must change your grasping, controlling stance to one of openness and trust. The only thing you can grasp without damaging your soul is My hand. Ask My Spirit within you to order your day and control your thoughts, for the mind controlled by the Spirit is Life and Peace.

You can have as much of Me and My Peace as you want, through thousands of correct choices each day. The most persistent choice you face is whether to trust Me or to worry.

It resonates with me because I think this world tries to give us all these different ways to deal with our stresses or to find peace or to find satisfaction. And it really will only be found in Christ alone. And I think that’s just such the key to just saying, “I need to run to Jesus, to Him, for His source of peace.”

Adrienne: I think sometimes as well, we get really frustrated with the Lord for not taking things away from us, you know, certain stresses or stressful situations. I think that we’ve gone through and we’re like, “Lord, take it away from me, take it away from me.” But we haven’t. I mean, we haven’t actually let go of the grip of those things. God isn’t going to just forcibly remove things from our hands. We literally have to open our hands and open our hearts and hand those things over to Him. 

Jeremy: I think a lot of what we endure as people here, we all endure hardship, and pain really is universal. Everyone experiences it. And everybody in the midst of that pain, they want hope. And, you know, this is just a story of someone who went through a hardship, went through pain, and realized that the only thing that got him through it was Jesus. And that is the only hope and the only true source of peace and joy. He’s the answer to everything.

“This is just a story of someone who went through a hardship, went through pain, and realized that the only thing that got him through it was Jesus. And that is the only hope and the only true source of peace and joy. He’s the answer to everything.” – Jeremy Camp

Here I am today now with a beautiful wife and three beautiful children. Of course, there’s the road that it took to get here. And a lot of the trust in the Lord in the midst of hardships. But He’s been faithful. And here we are now, you know, being married almost seventeen years later. 

Narrator: You can learn more about Jeremy’s story in the movie I Still Believe, now streaming online and available on DVD and Blu-Ray.

If you would like to hear more stories about how God can restore us, no matter what our condition, listen to our interview with John and Stasi Eldredge on JesusCalling.com/podcast.

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Narrator: Next time on the Jesus Calling Podcast, we speak with fine artist and author Anne Neilson. Anne paints with passion and purpose, and she’s well-known for her beautiful angel paintings that bring peace and comfort to others, which she never anticipated when she sat down at her canvas for the first time.

Anne Neilson: I’ve had people that have come and shared their story of their child that has died, whether they have committed suicide or died of an overdose, or their spouse has passed away. It has been a powerful story after a powerful story, knowing these angels do bring comfort and healing through the power and the presence of the Holy Spirit, through art.